It’s no secret that Kendrick Lamar is no fan of Donald Trump: he’s slammed the president on “The Heart Part 4” and in Rolling Stone, and now he’s weighed in on both Trump and President Obama, and their stark differences, for i-D. He told interviewer Touré:

ON DONALD TRUMP AND HIS ELECTION WIN: I… don’t… know. We all are baffled. It is something that completely disregards our moral compass….It’s a complete mindfuck….The key differences [between Obama and Trump] are morals, dignity, principles, common sense….How can you follow someone who doesn’t know how to approach someone or speak to them kindly and with compassion and sensitivity? It’s just building up the fire in me. It builds the fire for me to keep pushing as hard as I want to push.

Rumor Report | Kendrick Lamar on the cover of Rolling Stone Magazine

ON VISITING PRESIDENT OBAMA IN THE WHITE HOUSE: I was talking to Obama and the craziest thing he said was, ‘Wow, how did we both get here?’ Blew my mind away. I mean, it’s just a surreal moment when you have two black individuals, knowledgeable individuals, but who also come from these backgrounds where they say we’ll never touch ground inside these floors. That’s what blows me up. Being in there and talking to him and seeing the type of intelligence that he has and the influence that he has, not only on me, but on my community. It just always takes me back to the idea of how far we have come along with this idea about how [much] further we can go. Just him being in office sparks the idea that us as a people, we can do anything that we want to do. And we have smarts and the brains and the intelligence to do it.