DJ Khaled talks a lot about “They” in his various interviews and he broadly defines it as the detractors in everyone’s life. But if you listen closer, the Miami star will reveal specifics and hint at the troubling time in his life post-Cash Money and pre-Snapchat fame. Below, Khaled sat with ESPN’s Michael Smith and Jemele Hill (His & Hers) for a candid convo about…everything. Filmed during the BET Experience this past weekend, check out highlights from the social media king’s Genius discussion.

Insider Access | DJ Khaled’s Genius Talk